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    Superbird

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    More MA 109 fun

    Post by Superbird on Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:17 am

    Had the 109 out on 2 gigs and a private party now. I wish I was as good as the regulars here in describing sound, but to me it's got this warm but very full and fast bass response that is incredibly fun to play, It makes you FUNKY. Unlike any of my conventional cabs, or anything other I've tried. Really intriguing the more I get it out, especially with the JC Epiphone which is an extremely dynamic bass.

    The last gig was: Shotgun shack blues club, 80ft long, small to medium size. Medium level blues band, but not rock blues level. Trio and harp through 4x10 bassman. I was up in a corner on a decent hollow stage maybe 2 ft high. A few notes went up in volume from most likely stage resonance or corner build up at my ears playing... however, another bass player sat in and I got to hear the house mix. I asked the guitar player in my main band about the bass response when I got off. He said very even volume and great tone. As I heard the house mix, I can't believe this bigger, but still compact 1x10 rig was have NO problem at all filling this club and backing this band! Crazy... Nice even note projection in the house.

    Mike, this thing is freaking a few people out here on the left coast.

    Boy, the 112 saga is now really fun to watch, can only imaging the hugeness forth coming from it... cheers
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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by Steve Regier on Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:47 am

    The 109 is a special loudspeaker. 'Happy to hear you are diggin' it.
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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by mikearnopol on Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:09 am

    It's the most "vintage" tonal palette of all of my speakers. Kindof like using a K140 but with extended highs and huge controlled lows. And of course, the lessening of room resonances and the Big E "spacial" thing. Once you;ve played through one you'll know what I mean as far as "spacial".

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    Post by Superbird on Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:02 pm

    mikearnopol wrote:It's the most "vintage" tonal palette of all of my speakers. Kindof like using a K140 but with extended highs and huge controlled lows. And of course, the lessening of room resonances and the Big E "spacial" thing. Once you;ve played through one you'll know what I mean as far as "spacial".

    Got to listen again from the back of an open patio maybe 40 feet away. Big warm huge lows like you say Mike. Really nice and I still can't believe it's a 1 x 10... band was digging it.
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    Post by Steve Regier on Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:03 pm

    I'm glad to hear about your experience with the 109. It is the first serious tweaking of the MVW to Mike's exact specifications to in order to produce his new line of Wunderwaffen. Each chamber was analyzed in a knockdown test cabinet. Changes in geometry, wave path, high order modes, aperture phasing, and vorticity both desired and undesired were studied. Our first attempt was a complete disappointment to Mike and we went back and tried again resulting in not just the product you have now but the genesis of the refined MVW found in all products now in production. What you have is a real functional milestone of MVW history!
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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by ric426 on Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:02 pm

    I've still got the first production MA 109 that Mike shipped and I'm still diggin' it. I never thought of it, but Mike's comment about the K140 with extended highs and controlled lows is right. Somehow vintage but modern, which suits my taste just fine. I never did do the "pressure regulator" upgrade. Is that still a possibility? I'd like to hear what is does for the sound.

    Edit: Geez, I just noticed my avatar where I was playing through some D140's back in 1970. I guess my tastes have come full circle...

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    Post by Superbird on Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:30 am

    Where are you Ric? You're welcome to play through mine...
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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by ric426 on Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:27 pm

    I'm in Michigan and as I recall, you're on the left coast, so as much as i appreciate the offer, it ain't gonna happen. No

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    Post by Superbird on Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:45 pm

    Yes. I'm on the left coast. Anyone else is welcome to get it a go...

    Steve, thanks for the back ground on the MVW. It's a special box for sure. Pretty sure a few more will be heading out here. It will be making the rounds live a bit more soon. My bass friends out here are intrigued.
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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by mikearnopol on Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:43 pm

    Thanks guys---glad you're digging them. The 109 is unique in that it nails a vintage vibe but has the low end extension that betters any other modern bass cab. And the ones that do have good extension usually suffer from too much bass overhang between notes---the 109 does a neat balancing act between warmth and control---previously mutually exclusive.

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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by crud on Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:57 pm

    hey super bird,

    I'm going to be in san jose soon.
    Any chance i could check out your 109?
    thx
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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by coyoteboy on Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:57 pm

    The more i thhink about a pair of cotton-mouth MA-109's, the more I like it.
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    Post by Steve Regier on Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:20 am

    coyoteboy wrote:The more i thhink about a pair of cotton-mouth MA-109's, the more I like it.
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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by coyoteboy on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:26 am

    If only the BP-102 came in 4Ω

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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by Steve Berndt on Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:28 pm

    Anyone have experience with a low power tube head and the MAS 109?

    Investigating cabs for my Matchless Thunderman so 45 watts is all I have available.

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    Post by Steve Regier on Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:53 pm

    45 tube watts should produce roughly 115db of vortexitude from the MA-109.


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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by Steve Berndt on Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:28 pm

    Hmm..

    Well, when you put it in those terms.

    cheers

    Appears I will be calling Mike real soon.

    Thanks Steve

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    Re: More MA 109 fun

    Post by Steve Berndt on Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:40 pm

    Update after speaking with Mike.
    He is going to revisit speaker models with an eye on efficiency.

    Possible candidate in his mind is a MAS 212 Essential since tube amps are the same wattage for speaker loads of 2, 4, 8, 16 ohms.

    Although a MAS MVW low wattage cab may be an interesting and popular model for the line.

    Cheers

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