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    Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:40 am

    Mike Arnopol and some other brave souls have introduced MVW technology to the bass players on talkbass forum. Here is the very interesting thread: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by spiritbass on Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:30 pm

    I salute Mike's bravery - it gets kind of wild in the TB microcosm. I've read the thread probably three times trying to glean all available information on the MVW bass cabs. What excites me is how little they excite room nodes. And the dispersion. I finally gave Mike a call Friday 2/8. We had a very pleasant conversation on a number of topics. He is catching up a bit, his lead time on the 6 1/2" OEM driver-based cabs is down to six vs. eight weeks. I now have a MA-26 in the works. It should 'fill the shoes' of the Baer ML-112 I've been using with no sweat. I don't play out anymore and am solely a praise bass player in a small sanctuary. As good as the Baer is, I'm looking forward to experiencing a higher level of performance with the new cab. I'm all for less boom, fewer peaks, and more articulation and dispersion. Now I just have to 'exercise my patience gland' for six weeks. Wink
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by rich4349 on Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:30 pm

    Which of the cabinets are meant for bass players, which are for regular old DJ / PA? Or is there a lot of overlap?

    And how about a full list of the lineup, along with a brief description? Such as number and size of drivers, chief characteristic such as SPL over Extension, (or vice versa)
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:26 am

    spiritbass wrote:I salute Mike's bravery - it gets kind of wild in the TB microcosm. I've read the thread probably three times trying to glean all available information on the MVW bass cabs. What excites me is how little they excite room nodes. And the dispersion. I finally gave Mike a call Friday 2/8. We had a very pleasant conversation on a number of topics. He is catching up a bit, his lead time on the 6 1/2" OEM driver-based cabs is down to six vs. eight weeks. I now have a MA-26 in the works. It should 'fill the shoes' of the Baer ML-112 I've been using with no sweat. I don't play out anymore and am solely a praise bass player in a small sanctuary. As good as the Baer is, I'm looking forward to experiencing a higher level of performance with the new cab. I'm all for less boom, fewer peaks, and more articulation and dispersion. Now I just have to 'exercise my patience gland' for six weeks. Wink
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:36 am

    rich4349 wrote:Which of the cabinets are meant for bass players, which are for regular old DJ / PA? Or is there a lot of overlap?

    And how about a full list of the lineup, along with a brief description? Such as number and size of drivers, chief characteristic such as SPL over Extension, (or vice versa)
    There is some overlap. Mike's bass cabinet the MA46 is a close cousin to Leland's LC46. When loaded with OEM drivers the two cabinets have similar output and extension. In that scenario the difference is the cabinet hardware and cabinet material. The MA46 is hardened poplar for light weight while the LC46 is constructed from BB. If a price point is an issue the LC can be ordered with lower cost drivers and hardware at the sacrifice of extension. For more power handling the LC can also be ordered with high output high power drivers also with the sacrifice of extension. All Big E's will have a minimum extension of 80Hz or lower.

    A full list is on the way. We are still finishing up the product development phase.


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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by spiritbass on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:31 pm

    Steve Regier wrote:
    spiritbass wrote:I salute Mike's bravery - it gets kind of wild in the TB microcosm. I've read the thread probably three times trying to glean all available information on the MVW bass cabs. What excites me is how little they excite room nodes. And the dispersion. I finally gave Mike a call Friday 2/8. We had a very pleasant conversation on a number of topics. He is catching up a bit, his lead time on the 6 1/2" OEM driver-based cabs is down to six vs. eight weeks. I now have a MA-26 in the works. It should 'fill the shoes' of the Baer ML-112 I've been using with no sweat. I don't play out anymore and am solely a praise bass player in a small sanctuary. As good as the Baer is, I'm looking forward to experiencing a higher level of performance with the new cab. I'm all for less boom, fewer peaks, and more articulation and dispersion. Now I just have to 'exercise my patience gland' for six weeks. Wink
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    re: bass cabinets as seen on talkbass

    Post by rich4349 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:12 pm

    "A full list is on the way. "

    Looking forward to it! As well as the list of various driver options, such as the Faital, OEM; are there others??
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:20 am

    rich4349 wrote:"A full list is on the way. "

    Looking forward to it! As well as the list of various driver options, such as the Faital, OEM; are there others??

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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:15 am

    Presenting the MA85 in Flame Red! I heard this cabinet in person at Mike's place. It has to be heard to be truly appreciated. Maybe Mike can post the graph that we generated.

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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Harley Dear on Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:23 pm

    Steve Regier wrote:...on talkbass forum. Here is the very interesting thread: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:45 pm

    Harley Dear wrote:
    Steve Regier wrote:...on talkbass forum. Here is the very interesting thread: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
    Huh! Typical SquawkBass - "Thread Closed" In The Dark

    The thread reached it's max limit. The part2 is here [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:52 pm

    Steve Regier wrote:Presenting the MA85 in Flame Red! I heard this cabinet in person at Mike's place. It has to be heard to be truly appreciated. Maybe Mike can post the graph that we generated.

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    Here is the graph. The room was small and I had to use a short gate. Resolution below 100 is a bit off. The drop at 70Hz is a room artifact. I tested with a commercial cab that is flat in that region and it still showed the same dip. Overall the graph does represent what we hear from this cabinet. I will do more more measuring this weekend in a large treated room. It's not quite anechoic but with the right gating it should yield good results. Sadly this cabinet will not be available for testing. We will have others.

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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:23 am

    Some nice reviews here.
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    "I thought I'd also chime in on my experience so far with my M45. In bullet points.

    It looks like an insect.
    It just sounds good.
    Seems to sound better the more you push it.
    Defies what my ears would expect for what my eyes perceive.
    Clear, clear, clear.
    Punch, punch, punch.
    Sounds best at a particular trouble gig with a bass heavy stage laying on a monitor, aiming nearly 75° at the ceiling. Stage likes to resonate on F through Ab on the E string, this angle and setup mitigated that entirely. Stage volume appears minimized while the sound penetrates further into the room. I'm getting more for less. I'm getting less "the bass could turn up a bit" and getting more "the band sounds great! cohesive!"
    The impact of each note is changing my playing back to what it was when I was playing strictly acoustic, full arm strokes for snappity snap attack and bigger volume/tone. Why? Because it sounds so denim good, and feels better. I don't like what my right arm does when I can depend on amplification, I get lazy OR work too hard. This cabinet reinforces good technique, IMO. It's like dribbling a basketball, or jumping on a trampoline. Dig?
    I listen to music through it while at home because I can, and because it sounds better than anything else I have. Played Radiohead through it, cranked the bass knob on my AI Clarus on a whim, and the sound multiplied in apparent MASS, but stayed clear. I can stand far across a room listening to music at a moderate volume and feel the kick drum and bass in my chest. It just sounds good. It's not heavy, but I wish it were composite and so just a tad lighter."

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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:12 pm

    3rdcurve started a thread compairing his MA85 with his Berg212. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
    What I really find interesting in his initial observations was that he noticed a bass output INCREASE when he setup outdoors. The larger MVW cabinets exhibit that charateristic...more real would evidence of MVW technolog.
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    Post by rich4349 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:20 pm

    Any headway on the latest hybrid Mike talked about a couple weeks ago? The one with the bottom end of the 8s (or was it 10s?) combined with the mids and highs of the 45?
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:34 pm

    Several such designs are in the works. None are out of testing yet. We do expect to be able to release some news soon.
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by mikearnopol on Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:30 pm

    rich4349 wrote:Any headway on the latest hybrid Mike talked about a couple weeks ago? The one with the bottom end of the 8s (or was it 10s?) combined with the mids and highs of the 45?

    oh crap--was I going opening my mouth again---thought I learned my lesson! Rolling Eyes
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

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    The MAS210 Flex enters production

    Post by Steve Regier on Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:04 am

    Yes, the MAS210 Flex is now in production and Mike should be shipping the first cabinets in a couple of weeks. Here is a photo of a production prototype undergoing final testing.

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    Below is the graph of the 210 measured in it's three basic settings. These measurements were taken at 500W at a distance of 4 meters. The very bottom of the graph is a bit ragged due to some room modes. The goal of these measurements was to examine the different voicings in the Flex system. Mike will be measuring his entire product line with us in true half-space as soon as it is established.

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    FYI we pushed this cabinet to it's like with 1200 Ashly RMS Watts and recorded peak output of 128db 100Hz at 4 meters. affraid

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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by rich4349 on Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:06 am

    What's the selling price on these? And since I usually like to use things for their not intended purpose: how well would a pair of these work as a home stereo?
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:29 pm

    They have an MSRP of $2525.00 but Mike is introducing them for much less; about $1,700 I think. Yes, they would be fantastic home stereo loudspeakers! Duke from Audiokenesis is introducing a model for home use based on this platform this fall.


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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by 3rdcurve on Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:01 pm

    I know a watched pot never boils, ...... but I just can't seem to look away! Shocked 
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:25 pm

    It looks like DirtPoorRobins received his MAS-45/110 Combo. 'Looking forward to reviews and maybe some video?bounce What a Face 
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    Re: Bass Cabinets as Seen on Talkbass

    Post by Steve Regier on Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:33 am

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    Post by Steve Regier on Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:04 pm

    ...and the double bass video:
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