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    New 46 with Faital mids and a Duke crossover

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    New 46 with Faital mids and a Duke crossover

    Post by mikearnopol on Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:53 pm

    Now that I'm feeling good about the 10" based cabs I've redone the 46 and am very happy.

    Jerry at Eminence designed some new drivers that have stronger mids and also extended lows. We decided to try Faital's 3" cone drivers. They're pretty amazing--response down to 100hz and past 15k. The crossover is all Duke.The speaker is near flat (+-3db) from 300 to 15khz.

    The sound---
    This cab goes lower than any of our bass cabs. I think that the 10"cabs are a bit punchier but the 46 is no slouch. You can't hear the crossover. It has that "paper cone sound" from top to bottom. This cab is super neutral in sound---the lows have just a bit of the MVW warmth but not too much.. The 10" cabs have a bit more "zing" on top (above 10k) but if you dial up the treble one notch you're pretty much there. I think that it's the most natural and uncolored speaker we have.

    It goes about the same volume as the 110's. The Flex cabs are punchier and more up-front in their presentation---not in a bad way, though. The 45/110's while not being as aggressive as the Flex's still have  a slightly forward mids presentation. The 46 is the most neutral. The MVW's take eq really well so if you goose the mids up a bit youre in line with the 10" based cabs.

    The new 46 has less of an upper bass bump and MUCH better mids than the original 46. I really like it.

    25 x 15 1/2 by 13 deep.

    It'll keep up with a 15 or 410.

    Weight went up 2 pounds to 43#.
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    Re: New 46 with Faital mids and a Duke crossover

    Post by coyoteboy on Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:42 am

    Now how will the 26 compare with the 45?
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    Re: New 46 with Faital mids and a Duke crossover

    Post by Steve Regier on Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:20 pm

    coyoteboy wrote:Now how will the 26 compare with the 45?
    I do not believe a 26 exists in this platform; yet.


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    Re: New 46 with Faital mids and a Duke crossover

    Post by coyoteboy on Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:45 pm

    No, but it will. I gotta get me one of these before too long. ;-)
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    Re: New 46 with Faital mids and a Duke crossover

    Post by lo-freq on Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:20 pm

    mikearnopol wrote:Now that I'm feeling good about the 10" based cabs I've redone the 46 and am very happy.

    Jerry at Eminence designed some new drivers that have stronger mids and also extended lows. We decided to try Faital's 3" cone drivers. They're pretty amazing--response down to 100hz and past 15k. The crossover is all Duke.The speaker is near flat (+-3db) from 300 to 15khz.

    The sound---
    This cab goes lower than any of our bass cabs. I think that the 10"cabs are a bit punchier but the 46 is no slouch. You can't hear the crossover. It has that "paper cone sound" from top to bottom. This cab is super neutral in sound---the lows have just a bit of the MVW warmth but not too much.. The 10" cabs have a bit more "zing" on top (above 10k) but if you dial up the treble one notch you're pretty much there. I think that it's the most natural and uncolored speaker we have.

    It goes about the same volume as the 110's. The Flex cabs are punchier and more up-front in their presentation---not in a bad way, though. The 45/110's while not being as aggressive as the Flex's still have  a slightly forward mids presentation. The 46 is the most neutral. The MVW's take eq really well so if you goose the mids up a bit youre in line with the 10" based cabs.

    The new 46 has less of an upper bass bump and MUCH better mids than the original 46. I really like it.

    25 x 15 1/2 by 13 deep.

    It'll keep up with a 15 or 410.

    Weight went up 2 pounds to 43#.
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    What is the impedance on the 46 & the 66?
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    Re: New 46 with Faital mids and a Duke crossover

    Post by mikearnopol on Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:31 pm

    Played this weekend with the new 46. Upright with a loud quartet. Works GREAT for upright. Perfect tonal balance and the best rhythmic authority I've ever gotten with an amplified upright. I still absolutely love the 45, but if you need to crank---this is the cab.

    Without me fishing for a response everyone in the band commented on how this was the best upright sound (and function) I've gotten.Another loud electric gig this weekend---it's great for that, too.

    I'm thinking of staying with 4 ohms for this cab. It's about 1.5 db less efficient than the original 46. So any mini amp with 500 watts into 4 ohms will drive it just fine. 6 ohms for the 66.

    I can do 8 ohms---but right now I have to decide ---I can only afford one run of custom drivers so I think that the 4 ohm cab is more practical. When I'm swimming in dough I'll pop for an 8 ohm run.

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    Re: New 46 with Faital mids and a Duke crossover

    Post by coyoteboy on Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:22 am

    Curious if a 26 config could make it out before end of year intro pricing. Not sure if this is the right spot for this question, but here goes:

    2 vertical drivers emphasize horizontal dispersion while curbing dispersion in the vertical. After crossfiri g those drivers upwards/downwards, is the original horizontal dispersion characteristic retained as the vertical dispersion is increased giving a more cone shaped dispersion pattern??

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